From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles Subject: Re: Winterizing My Bike Date: 13 Sep 1994 23:48:29 GMT Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group Message-ID: <355dod$93e@delphinium.cig.mot.com> References: <34tfia$emj@newstand.syr.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: corolla18.rtsg.mot.comIn article <34tfia$emj@newstand.syr.edu>, Satyan K. Shah <skshah@mothra.syr.edu> wrote:
It's a little soon to be contemplating storage, upstate or no!
This is a file I hand out to all my beginner-motorcyclist friends (all my friends ride motorcycles, or want to, don't yours? :-) I distilled it from a bunch of sources, and it's what I do to winterize my bikes.
The main problems you are likely to encounter with winter motorcycle storage are a dead battery, congealed fuel, oil corrosion, tire rot, and security. If the motorcycle is stored in a wet, salty environment, such as outside in a parking lot or near an ocean, rust and paint corrosion is also a problem. Most of these problems can be avoided by spending a few hours preparing the motorcycle for storage.
The tools and supplies you will need include rags, screwdrivers (slotted and Phillips), a spark plug wrench, spanners or a socket set, a trickle battery charger, distilled water, four or five quarts of oil, a new oil filter, an oil can with oil in it (the kind with a trigger for squirting out the oil), a can of chain lube, a bottle of fuel stabilizer, a can of WD40, a small piece of 1/2" plywood or similar, some plastic tubing, a chain and lock, and a tarp or motorcycle cover. Some of these tools should be in a tool roll under the seat. The steps to do this winterizing are as follows:
Be extra cautious for a while. Your riding skills are rusty, and drivers aren't accustomed to seeing motorcycles on the road yet.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles From: be625@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (John Stephens) Subject: Re: Winter Worries Message-ID: <CyCMvK.1Jp@freenet.carleton.ca> Organization: The National Capital FreeNet References: <38h1qp$qkb@news.halcyon.com> <38ffe9$ras@news.iastate.edu> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 1994 20:42:56 GMTricm@iastate.edu (Ricardo G Menendez) writes:
I have a 94 VFR750F that I am planning to store in an unheated garage (under a motorcycle cover). Where I live it gets very cold ,and it snows quite a bit in winter. Assuming I winterize the bike for storage (drain the carbs, fill the tank and add stabilizer, and so on) do I have anything to fear by not having it in a heated garage?
I will pay to store it in a heated garage if an unheated one is a bad idea...so is it a bad idea? Any advice?
In a previous article, gunnerso@chinook.halcyon.com (Eric Gunnerson) says:
There's a company that advertises in the backs of magazines that makes a fully sealed plastic bag (for want of a better term) to put your cycle in. It includes dessicant (to absorb moisture), and should work well.
--
Eric Gunnerson <gunnerso@halcyon.com>
There's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over.
I bought the BAG last year and was very impressed with the whole kit. It included the bag (5 ft X 6 ft X 15 ft) plus the dessicant, ropes to tie the bag and a piece of wood for the centrestand. It worked A1. My only complaint is that all during the winter whenever I drove my car in to the garage I see the bike through the clear plastic and become depressed because of the cold weather.
I keep my bike in an unheated garage which dropped to -30 C and had no problems. Once Spring arrived I took the bike out of the bag, changed the oil, and off I went. With a clean bike. There is no need to spray as the air is kept dry inside the bag.
I then put the Dessicant in a large Tupperware container so it will stay dry during the summer. There is an indicator included in the kit which tells you when the dessicant is no longer working. (See "Renewing Dessicant").
In all I would say it is money well spent. It should last at least three years before the dessicant needs replacing.... and the bag could last for many more years
John Stephens
1993 Honda Goldwing
From: bbrodnax@orion.oac.uci.edu (Bruce T. Brodnax) Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles Subject: Re: Winter Worries Date: 28 Oct 1994 07:32:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Message-ID: <38q9dp$33o@news.service.uci.edu> References: <38h1qp$qkb@news.halcyon.com> <38ffe9$ras@news.iastate.edu> <CyCMvK.1Jp@freenet.carleton.ca>
In a previous article, gunnerso@chinook.halcyon.com (Eric Gunnerson) says:
I bought the BAG last year and was very impressed with the whole kit. [snippa'ge]In article <CyCMvK.1Jp@freenet.carleton.ca>, John Stephens <be625@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
I then put the Dessicant in a large Tupperware container so it will stay dry during the summer. There is an indicator included in the kit which tells you when the dessicant is no longer working.You can dry the dessicant (silica gel) back out by putting in an oven on low for a day.
Thanx for the product report!
Bruce Brodnax
"I am _not_ crazy! MY BRAIN IS ON FIRE!!!" <tm>
From: knee@Glue.umd.edu (Robert S. Fourney) Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles Subject: Re: Bike care in fall/winter? Date: 28 Oct 1994 10:35:15 -0400 Organization: Project Glue, University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <38r273$lc@worm.eng.umd.edu> References: <38p8e8$8dl@engr.orst.edu>I am often in similar situation with the wife's bike. Namely, when she parks it it may sit for a day or over a month (not due to weather, due to some internal workings of the female brain --ouch!)
Keep a can of gas w/ Stabil mixed in handy. Top off the tank and drain the bowls if you're not real sure you'll be riding it within a week or so (once you get out of the habit it requires a much nicer day to get you back on the bike--in her case if it sits for a week it will require a special event to get her back in the saddle.)
Keep the battery charged. A charged battery won't freeze in MD, YMMV.
DO NOT start up the bike and let it idle if you can't ride. You get the oil warm enough to get lots of things condensing in it, but not enough to blow out all the combustion by products. Either ride it or let it sit and charge it. If you try to start the bike and it won't start, make sure the battery gets charged fully before nightfall or take it in the house. No need to troubleshoot two problems at the same time.
Although the winters here are in the same "oil chart range" as the summers, I use the heavier allowed oil (20W50 for my CB750K) in the summer and lighter (10W40 in my case) for the winter. This gives me easier starts and I figure that the type of riding is much different. In the winter it's to and from work and maybe a couple of hours on a weekend vs. the summer tour type ride of many hours at higher revs.
Make sure the air cleaner is clean and that you have the correct heat range plugs for the colder weather (I'm going 1/2 range hotter this winter, which is called for below 41 deg F in my bike) Any tendency of the plugs to foul will be made worse with the cold and increased choke times.
I agree that you have a nice bike, but that little bikini fairing may leave a bit to be desired in the cold. You may want to check out a plexifaring (tm) type product that goes on and off quickly for use on the colder days.
Enjoy!
Bob Fourney
From: pooder@calvary.rchland.ibm.com (Don Fearn) Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles Subject: Re: Winter Storage Date: 2 Nov 1994 17:11:37 GMT Organization: IBM Rochester MN Message-ID: <398h89$164m@locutus.rchland.ibm.com> References: <396d13$n7p@news.iastate.edu>
In article <396d13$n7p@news.iastate.edu>, partee@iastate.edu (Jonathan F Partee) writes:
[ . . . ;^) ][ . . . ]
On the other hand, you can just do the following and save money:Preparing the Motorcycle for Storage:
(* means very important)
- (*) Change your oil. Nasty acids build up in old oil and that can eat away vital engine parts.
- Wash it.
- (*) Go for one last ride long enough warm up the engine (thereby circulating oil) and dry off the bike (assuming you washed it).
- While on your ride, stop by the gas station and fill up with gas and inflate your tires to the recommended pressure. (YMMV, see below)
Good advice, Johnathan, but move #1 after #4. You want the oil to be _absolutely_ unused before storage. Turn your motorcycle engine over a few times after changing the oil, but DON'T start it until next spring.
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