From grimpeur@VNET.IBM.COM Fri Mar 10 12:33:23 EST 1995 Article: 29873 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29873 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!its.csiro.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.oz.au!spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!news1.oakland.edu!wsu-cs!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!juniper.almaden.ibm.com!VNET.IBM.COM From: grimpeur@VNET.IBM.COM (Jim Rogers) Message-ID: <19950225.172737.882@almaden.ibm.com> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:40:04 CST Newsgroups: rec.climbing Organization: Archeological (lower strata contain older files) Subject: Why do we climb? References: <3iih78$p3q@news.nde.state.ne.us> Lines: 21 |But what lies beyond the athletism and fun of climbing? 1. Accomplishment - doing a difficult task which most people either can't do or won't bother to try. Includes learning and polishing a special set of skills. Getting places only these skills enable. 2. Learning what your body can - and can't - do, and how to exploit the former and avoid the latter. (part of your "athleticism") 3. Problem-solving - I *know* there's a way up this rock, I just have to find it. (Or: I *know* he put this stopper into this slot somehow, there *must* be a way to get it out. :-) 4. Confidence in assessing safety and planning acceptable risks. 5. Adrenaline! Enjoying it, and controlling the fear aspects. Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Security is mostly superstition. It does not exist in nature. Life is either a daring adventure or nothing." -- Helen Keller From reiser@pmafire.inel.gov Fri Mar 10 12:33:43 EST 1995 Article: 29682 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29682 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.eel.ufl.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!insosf1.infonet.net!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!world!news.mtholyoke.edu!nntp.et.byu.edu!cwis.isu.edu!mica.inel.gov!macw-sir.inel.gov!user From: reiser@pmafire.inel.gov (Steven Reiser, P.E.) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Why do we climb? Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:23:19 -0700 Organization: Systems Modeling, INEL, ID Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <3iih78$p3q@news.nde.state.ne.us> <19950225.172737.882@almaden.ibm.com> <3it7rd$9e2@tadpole.fc.hp.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: macw-sir.inel.gov Why? MIND: It is mentally challenging like chess figuring out the moves. BODY: It is physcally demanding as gymnastic training. SOUL: A runout climb can be as emotionally demanding as figuring out your SO. Hence, it challenges all major dimensions of self at once, so that your whole being is involved, so that when you push your limits you feel TOTALLY ALIVE!!! -- reiser@pmafire.inel.gov From jbargo@carsinfo.com Fri Mar 10 12:33:56 EST 1995 Article: 29888 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29888 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!news.erinet.com!malgudi.oar.net!jbargo From: jbargo@carsinfo.com (Jerry Bargo) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Why do we climb? Date: 3 Mar 1995 19:45:06 GMT Organization: OARnet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3j7rk2$gl@ns.oar.net> References: <3iih78$p3q@news.nde.state.ne.us> <3it7rd$9e2@tadpole.fc.hp.com> <1995Feb28.154508.22038@den.mmc.com> <3j2d1p$emm@agate.berkeley.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: carshp.carsinfo.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] "Because I am amongst the chronically under-aroused." -- unknown climber at Seneca Rocks, WV -- Jerry Bargo University of Cincinnati CARS Information Systems Corp. Mountaineering Club *************** A day without tempting fate is a day wasted. *************** From hubbert@minerva.cis.yale.edu Fri Mar 10 12:34:38 EST 1995 Article: 29661 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29661 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!usc!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.bu.edu!noc.near.net!yale.edu!news.ycc.yale.edu!hubbert From: hubbert@minerva.cis.yale.edu (sparks) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Why do we climb? Date: 26 Feb 1995 19:06:08 GMT Organization: Yale University Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3iqjf0$r2d@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <3iih78$p3q@news.nde.state.ne.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.cis.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] When confronted with that one obnoxious tourist gawking at my ropes and asking the inevitable question "why do you climb those mountains?", I've always secretly wanted to answer "because you don't" :-) --sparks (Once I was carrying a makeshift portaledge off of a wall in Zion NP and for some reason they all thought it was some kind of a hand-glider, AND I was walking *down*...after a while I was telling them I flew up there.) Erik German (tmiller@unlinfo.unl.edu) wrote: : I am currently doing a project on the psychology of "extreme" : sports. I enjoy moutaineering and rock climbing and have come up : with some reasons of my own, but I am interested in other individuals' : motivation for climbing. : I love the fun and adventure of climbing. The feeling that existed : inside while I stood on the summit of Rainier, was incomparable. : But what lies beyond the athletism and fun of climbing? : Any comments will be apreciated. : -Erik German