From scopi@aol.com Fri Apr 21 18:09:58 EST 1995 Article: 3692 of rec.climbing Xref: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:3692 Path: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!crux.rp.CSIRO.AU!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!news.sprintlink.net!uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsbf02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: scopi@aol.com (ScoPi) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: The Fine Art of Dealing with Tourists Date: 18 Apr 1995 23:57:08 -0400 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Lines: 14 Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <3n21mk$fr0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Reply-To: scopi@aol.com (ScoPi) NNTP-Posting-Host: newsbf02.mail.aol.com [Recently while standing at the base of El Cap in a freezing [rainstorm, wearing a haulbag and ropes, and having enough [equipment at my feet to outfit a small expedition to patagonia, [a couple of tourists approached me and asked if I was going [to climb that mountain (El Cap). Being in a very, very, very [bad mood, what should have been the correct response to the query. You could use the El Cap Meadows checklist (in a weary voice): "It's 3000' tall." "It takes about 3-4 days." "We shit into plastic tubes." "No, you can't use my binoculars." or you might try speaking in tongues (I use a rendition of the Tasmanian Devil from Looney Tunes.) : ) Scott From papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu Fri Apr 21 18:10:04 EST 1995 Article: 3707 of rec.climbing Xref: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:3707 Newsgroups: rec.climbing Path: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!crux.rp.CSIRO.AU!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!zephyr!typhoon.seas.ucla.edu!papen From: papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu (Jeffrey E. Papen) Subject: Re: The Fine Art of Dealing with Tourists Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:30:34 GMT References: <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA Lines: 27 Yup! But first I'm going to kill you and take your wife for food (or a haul slave). NOTE: I was with Jeff when this happened and was in just as bad of a mood. - Jeffrey In article <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> batten@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Jeff Batten) writes: >Recently while standing at the base of El Cap in a freezing >rainstorm, wearing a haulbag and ropes, and having enough >equipment at my feet to outfit a small expedition to patagonia, >a couple of tourists approached me and asked if I was going >to climb that mountain (El Cap). Being in a very, very, very >bad mood, what should have been the correct response to the query. > > >Jeff Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off. Jeffrey Papen JPapen@asucla.ucla.edu Department of Computer Science, UCLA From papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu Fri Apr 21 18:10:44 EST 1995 Article: 3708 of rec.climbing Xref: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:3708 Newsgroups: rec.climbing Path: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!crux.rp.CSIRO.AU!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!zephyr!typhoon.seas.ucla.edu!papen From: papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu (Jeffrey E. Papen) Subject: Re: The Fine Art of Dealing with Tourists Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:32:37 GMT References: <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA Lines: 25 NO! Don't be stupid. I need to water my gear with Yosemite rain water for it to grow strong. - Jeffrey In article <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> batten@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Jeff Batten) writes: >Recently while standing at the base of El Cap in a freezing >rainstorm, wearing a haulbag and ropes, and having enough >equipment at my feet to outfit a small expedition to patagonia, >a couple of tourists approached me and asked if I was going >to climb that mountain (El Cap). Being in a very, very, very >bad mood, what should have been the correct response to the query. > > >Jeff Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off. Jeffrey Papen JPapen@asucla.ucla.edu Department of Computer Science, UCLA From papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu Fri Apr 21 18:10:59 EST 1995 Article: 3710 of rec.climbing Xref: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:3710 Newsgroups: rec.climbing Path: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!crux.rp.CSIRO.AU!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!noc.netcom.net!netcom.com!csus.edu!csulb.edu!info.ucla.edu!library.ucla.edu!zephyr!typhoon.seas.ucla.edu!papen From: papen@typhoon.seas.ucla.edu (Jeffrey E. Papen) Subject: Re: The Fine Art of Dealing with Tourists Sender: news@seas.ucla.edu (News Daemon) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 06:36:06 GMT References: <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA Lines: 25 Actually, we started at the top and climbed down that mountain. It's easier that way ya know... - Jeffrey In article <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> batten@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Jeff Batten) writes: >Recently while standing at the base of El Cap in a freezing >rainstorm, wearing a haulbag and ropes, and having enough >equipment at my feet to outfit a small expedition to patagonia, >a couple of tourists approached me and asked if I was going >to climb that mountain (El Cap). Being in a very, very, very >bad mood, what should have been the correct response to the query. > > >Jeff Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people I had to kill because they pissed me off. Jeffrey Papen JPapen@asucla.ucla.edu Department of Computer Science, UCLA From isbi2080@mach1.wlu.ca Fri Apr 21 18:11:25 EST 1995 Article: 3776 of rec.climbing Xref: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:3776 Newsgroups: rec.climbing Path: news.nsw.CSIRO.AU!crux.rp.CSIRO.AU!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!torn!watserv2.uwaterloo.ca!info!isbi2080 From: isbi2080@mach1.wlu.ca (Simon Isbister u) Subject: Re: The Fine Art of Dealing with Tourists X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6] References: <3n0p92$3qk@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Message-ID: Nntp-Posting-Host: mach1.wlu.ca Sender: news@info.uucp (news management) Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University Date: Wed, 19 Apr 1995 19:50:32 GMT Lines: 13 While I was at the top of a three pitch route, belaying my second, someone walking by said to me "Wow! Are you about to climb down?" I smiled and explained that my partner and I had just come up. "All the way up from the bottom?" they asked. They looked friendly enough to take a slightly sarcastic response, so I said "No, we started at the half way point, and came up from there," then smiled, so they would know I was joking. They kind of looked at me and said "Oh. I see,". Is our sport really that bizzare, or do I just keep running into people whose parents are cousins? -Simon-