From struan.gray@sljus.lu.se Tue Oct 15 17:03:53 EST 1996 Article: 12356 of rec.climbing Path: research.canon.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!munnari.OZ.AU!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!howland.erols.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!news00.sunet.se!sunic!news99.sunet.se!news.lth.se!stmmac2.sljus.lu.se!struan.gray From: Struan Gray Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: staying on route Date: 9 Oct 1996 10:17:34 GMT Organization: This line intentionally left bland Lines: 38 Distribution: world Message-ID: <53fu3u$gpf@news.lth.se> References: <32591D5B.2E4E@uswest.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: stmmac2.sljus.lu.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Nuntius 2.0.4_PPC X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 10:20:48 GMT His August Slimeyness writes: > >Lawrence W. DeSaules (ldesaul@uswest.com) wrote: > >> Please: >> Be considerate of other climbers below you when you >> change routes partway through your climb. Read the guidebook >> and talk to other climbers if you're unsure of the route you >> plan to climb. > >Yeah! Stay in your own lane; signal your turns or the rock police will >issue a citation. That's right. Go ahead. Sneer. Problem with you oh Peer of the Ream is that you're too old fashioned and outdated to realise the problems that modern climbers face when tackling hard, committing routes. It's all very well to adopt that liberal, laissez-faire attitude if you're just some superannuated bumbly thrutching up a dirtbag crack no one's ever heard of, but today's hi-xposure dudes have other considerations. What is your photographer supposed to do if some unthinking route-switcher traverses into his foreground? You can't just move those tripods about at a moment's notice you know. What about the danger of developing over-sized thighs while standing around for that extra five minutes on the belay ledge? Isn't it just selfish and rude to ignore the good work put in by those who took the trouble to paint the lines on to the cliff? To remove the ugly plants and lichens from the proper line? No. Route swapping is a disease that needs to be stamped out for the good of the whole climbing community. Lasers from space I say. Struan