From nohorses@aol.com Wed May 21 16:42:17 EST 1997 Article: 32337 of rec.climbing Path: research.canon.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.mel.aone.net.au!news.mira.net.au!pumpkin.pangea.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!news.dal.ca!usenet.logical.net!dciteleport.com!europa.clark.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gsl.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: nohorses@aol.com (NoHorses) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Ratings? Date: 11 May 1997 05:42:00 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Lines: 33 Message-ID: <19970511054100.BAA12595@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5l2pjs$j1f@wave.rio.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Class 1= walking on a gentle terrain Class 2= walking on rough terrain Class 3= generally walking, but you may need hands for balance Class 4= climbing, but not technically hard climbing Class 5= free climbing.. generally with rope as a means of safety this class is subdivided. Originally meant to be a closed end from 5.0- 5.9. Developed first by Royal Robbins to augment the existing rating system in the 1950's. 5.0 is the easiest, and the climbing gets harder as the rating increases. 5.0- 5.7 are generally climbs that anyone can complete( provided they are in relatively good shape). In the 1960's, the advancing free climbing standards demanded a broader range of ratings, so the 5.10 was invented to be the next harder grade after 5.9. Then came the 5.11. About this time, Jim Bridwell saw the need for a more specific rating of the upper end of the scale. So he added letters after grades harder than 5.9. So now we have the 5.10a, 5.10b, 5.10c, etc... A 5.10a is an easy 5.10, and a 5.10d is a hard 5.10, with 5.10b and 5.10c being in between. Currently the scale goes up to 5.14d. One problem though, is that this scale is only valid for lead climbing. And it also only gives the rating for the hardest move on the climb. This has led to the creation of other rating systems for bouldering. The Gill system uses the rating B1, B2, and B3 B3= only one person has ever done the boulder problem B2= only a few people have ever done the boulder problem B1= a very hard problem, yet has been done quite a few times The Vermin Scale uses V0 through V15( currently) V0 is at the easy end of the scale( usually compared to a 5.10 in pure difficulty V15 represents the hardest possible moves( currently)