From george@irfip1.fr Fri Mar 3 15:46:08 EDT 1995 Article: 29717 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29717 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!its.csiro.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!munnari.oz.au!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!oleane!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!grenet.fr!irfip1!george From: george@irfip1.fr (Jonathan George, chercheur) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: where did "take" come from Date: 23 Feb 1995 11:58:15 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc. Lines: 23 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3iht8n$ina@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> References: <3idrf0$j1b@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU> Reply-To: george@irfip1.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: irfip1.grenet.fr In article j1b@news.CCIT.Arizona.EDU, bobh@denali.hwr.arizona.edu (Bob Harrington) writes: > > In article , > lesher_c@wizard.colorado.edu (Chris Lesher) writes: > ... so I've assumed that it was some sort of translation of French climbing > signals. Any French speakers out there to help me out on this? > Bob > So far, I've picked up a little of the climbing vocabulary over here. Here are a few translations (no accents because they don't always travel well on the net). to belay : assurer "take!" : "sec!" (literally = dry) carabiner : mousqueton quickdraw : degaine (sp?) route : voie belay station : relais bolts : spits bolted route : voie equipee most common expletive heard = "Oh putain!" ;) Jonathan From goochb@swim5.eng.sematech.org Sun Mar 5 17:33:16 EDT 1995 Article: 29854 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29854 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!gmi!zombie.ncsc.mil!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!insosf1.infonet.net!newshost.marcam.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!gater3.sematech.org!pulitzer.eng.sematech.org!swim5.eng.sematech.org!goochb From: "William D. Gooch" Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Best Cams For First Rack Date: Thu, 2 Mar 1995 16:46:04 -0600 Organization: SEMATECH, Austin Lines: 13 Message-ID: References: <3ih9ti$s1m@agate.berkeley.edu> <3ijka7$ldo@itchy.itsnet.com> <1995Feb27.200211.10368@den.mmc.com> <3j4v78$qk5@news.primenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: swim5.eng.sematech.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3j4v78$qk5@news.primenet.com> On Thu, 2 Mar 1995, Robert Ternes wrote: > What is a Teton and who made (makes?) it? SLCD or a "passive" immobile unit? Passive, aluminum cam made from extruded stock with a T cross-section. Runner attachment at the base of the T. Wide camming range, a couple of stopper-like placement options, lightweight. Made by Forrest (no longer made AFAIK). Not quite as good as hexes IMO - a bit harder to place well. But I have a couple of old Troll T chocks that I like a lot; the primary difference between these and Tetons is that the Trolls have a slanted bottom on the T, which provides a bomber stopper placement that almost never rotates, and works well in flared cracks if you can find any small protrusions to put the edge behind. From icsia128@Msu.oscs.montana.edu Sun Mar 5 17:33:28 EDT 1995 Article: 29930 of rec.climbing Xref: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU rec.climbing:29930 Path: dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!metro!news.cs.su.oz.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!msunews!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!usenet.coe.montana.edu!Msu.oscs.montana.edu!icsia128 From: icsia128@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Shaitan mcDufus) Newsgroups: rec.climbing Subject: Re: Best Cams For First Rack Date: Fri, 03 Mar 1995 18:34:55 Organization: Montana State University Lines: 28 Distribution: world Message-ID: <0098CD1D.F18B3EC0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> References: <3ih9ti$s1m@agate.berkeley.edu> <3ijka7$ldo@itchy.itsnet.com> <1995Feb27.200211.10368@den.mmc.com>,<3j4v78$qk5@news.primenet.com> Reply-To: icsia128@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Shaitan mcDufus) NNTP-Posting-Host: trex.oscs.montana.edu In article <3j4v78$qk5@news.primenet.com>, trango@primenet.com (Robert Ternes) writes: >What is a Teton and who made (makes?) it? SLCD or a "passive" immobile unit? i believe that a Teton was a nut made from T-section stock, by Forrest Mountaineering. They have not been made as long as i have been climbing (9 years), and i don't think that Forrest has been around in about as long. >Also, do they still make #11 hexes? Nope. I bought the last one i ever saw in a shop (drilled for 5.5mm cord, too!) and that was back in about 1990. Apparently they used to make them up to size 13... good luck on your quest. edsk p.s. i also have old Chouinard Tube Chocks and Clog Cogs. Both are super-bomber. lulululululululululululululululululululululululululululu u l l E.D. Smith Kennedy u u icsia128@msu.oscs.montana.edu l l gek5821@msu.oscs.montana.edu u u l lulululululululululululululululululululululululululululu